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nasa's jet propulsion laboratory

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presents

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the von carmen lecture a series of talks

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by scientists and engineers who are

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exploring our planet our solar system

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hello and a very pleasant good evening

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to you wherever you may be i'm brian

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white from jpl's office of

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communications and education and welcome

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to the von carmen series

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throughout our series we've taken a

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deeper look not just our missions or

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objects in space but also some of the

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careers at jpl tonight we take a deeper

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look at instrument operations engineers

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what they do for their mission and how

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they do it in doing so we'll be

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discussing a wonderful mission called

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maya and before we get to our speaker

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i'd like to introduce our questions

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co-host for tonight public outreach

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specialist jason jocelyn argeta hiya

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jocelyn

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hey brian

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super excited for tonight's talk and if

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you're watching wherever you're watching

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us online we want to remind you that

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this is your space program and we want

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you to be involved so feel free to add

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your questions to the chat box and our

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wonderful social media team will get

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those to us we'll try to answer as many

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of your questions as we can tonight and

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if for some reason you can't see the

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chat box just hit refresh and it should

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thank you very much jocelyn and as a

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reminder as she said if we're on a

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i'm having right now with speaking we

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ask that you do speak with us as we get

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those sorted out now without further ado

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let's meet our speaker she is an

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instrument operation systems engineer

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here at nasa jpl she has worked on

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projects from cassini to the upcoming

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maya mission please welcome janelle

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wellens hiya janelle

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hi brian

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welcome we're so excited to have you

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here tonight um the main thing i wanna i

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wanna start off with what's your origin

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story all good superheroes have origin

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stories how did you get to jpl

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that is a great question you know my

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origin definitely didn't start with me

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thinking that i would actually end up

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here one day instead in school i was

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more concerned about learning new things

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being curious i didn't really have that

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path in mind and going back specifically

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to junior year is when things really

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took a turn for me

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because looking around everyone was

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thinking about things college what they

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wanted to major in where they wanted to

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go to school i mean in my mind i was

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like oh we have to think about those

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i actually started to get mail like

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addressed in my name to my home which

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was not a normal occurrence from

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colleges all over the nation

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i mean i got school saying look at this

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track program i ran track and oh look we

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have this great thing in literature it

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was amazing but at the same time really

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overwhelming to the point where i just

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started taking the mail putting it in a

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container and storing it underneath my

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bed and when i ran out of room there

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i actually just started to throw it into

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the trash can which by the way you

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probably shouldn't do that

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so okay i come home one day i got my

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sack of mail take a look at it looks

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good it's going to the bin but on that

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particular day my mom is in the kitchen

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and sees me walking this stack over and

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notices that the pamphlet on top is from

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a school called the massachusetts

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institute of technology

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school i had never heard of before but

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apparently she had she herself is not an

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engineer or a scientist and neither is

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my dad but my mom worked with engineers

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and she recognized that mit was a good

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school and we needed to look at this

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program right now and so

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put it out on the front table looking at

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the program oh you're going to come with

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other students from around the country

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you're going to study math calculus

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biochemistry you're going gonna do some

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and if you get in it's totally free of

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cost and hey saw that my mom's like oh

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you're filling this application out so

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and i did night before it was due hit

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the final submit button

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forgot about it to a classmate was

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asking a group of us what are you gonna

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do for the summer and i said oh i'm

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gonna run cross country then i

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remembered oh or i'll go to this program

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at a school called mit if you've heard

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he's like

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heard of it

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do you understand how difficult it is to

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get into mit

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i said uh no

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that night

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i went home i looked up the statistics

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for the first time

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over 2 000 students applied the year

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before and they only let in one from the

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state of new jersey where i'm from

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so clearly it was a wrap i'm not getting

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into that i mean i'm not even top of my

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class here at a high school i mean why

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would they choose me there are so many

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other people who would be better

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so when my mom called me that spring

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saying i needed to rush home there's a

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package in the mail i'm thinking

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what is she we went over this but i got

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home and she's there saying take it take

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it and i'm like mom don't get your hopes

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up and she's like you know do you think

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they sent you a package to tell you you

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didn't get in

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something clicked for the first time i

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opened that package saw the word

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congratulations

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i can't even tell you how exciting that

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moment was for me

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me going to a school like mit

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it just goes to tell you that you don't

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know what moment is going to be the life

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changer for you for me it was a pamphlet

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that my mom forced me to look at i would

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have counted myself out if it weren't

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for her and so that's how i began my

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journey and ended up at mit

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and if not you who so if you bring up

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image two here we could see you in some

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of your mit splendor now how do you get

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from mit

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to jpl we love those abbreviations here

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oh yes tons of abbreviations so i'm at

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mit and i'm thinking i'm going to become

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a theoretical mathematician

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but i start talking to my classmates and

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they say try out an engineering class

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and so i'm looking at the list and you

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got mechanical electrical computer lots

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and lots of choices and i really didn't

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know where to start but

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i came across as one major called

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engineering space i mean i don't know

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about anyone else but to me space has

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always been cool like looking up black

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holes and all this other stuff

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so of course i go to introduction to

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aerospace engineering and i'm there on

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the first day the professor is going

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over the syllabus hey you know this year

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we're going to learn about the rocket

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equation we're going to learn about how

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planes fly and we're also going to learn

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a little bit about the history of space

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and you know i'm taking all this in and

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he shows this image of an astronaut

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fixing the hubble telescope

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black background you can see the earth

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just incredible i'm like wow this is

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what aerospace engineers do

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and then he says oh by the way

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i'm the astronaut in that photo

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are you did i hear that right look

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and you know i couldn't turn it down

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after that i mean come on this is the

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but you may be wondering yeah yeah no

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you may be wondering then how how did i

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get to jpl and really it

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and so you know i continue taking all

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these classes and the professors keep on

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giving us examples hey we're going to

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land something on mars like jpl we're

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going to send something to saturn to

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jpl was coming up all over the place

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this magical theater word

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and i knew if i wanted to get into space

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exploration jpl was the place to be

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i went to the career fair every year i

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signed up for the internship

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and i never landed it not once despite

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trying very hard i'll add

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so senior year rolls around it's not an

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internship now it's full-time job

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and i submitted my application for the

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first time i heard back not just from

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one supervisor but three

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and i remember rushing to the interview

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i wanted to get there early ripping my

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skirt in the process trying to hide it

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when i got in the room but i walked out

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after going and getting called back for

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further interviews with an offer to

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start at jpl as an instrument operations

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engineer and you can show image three

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that's you that's and and you're here

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with us tonight because you you bring

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such intelligence and passion to

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everything that you do and you're a

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great communicator so let's talk about

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what an instrument operations engineer

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question driving into jpl that first day

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nasa jp on the exit side what exactly is

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what i learned is that we basically have

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one of the coolest jobs ever

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i mean okay let's break it down starting

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to think of you've got these two

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essential parts you got the spacecraft

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or the rover which keeps you alive and

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gets you to the places that you want to

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go and then you have these scientific

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instruments that answer all of the

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interesting questions that the

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the instruments are how we get those

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so finishing out the rest of the name is

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my job to operate these scientific

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instruments when they're actually in

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space which is like wild

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i still can't believe i do it sometimes

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but my job doesn't end there

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the other half of my job is actually

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making sure what we planned happened

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and if you can show image six please

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i do this by looking at these pretty

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cool screens every morning to make sure

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things are going the way they should be

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and i kind of like to think of it like

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the relationship a doctor and a patient

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may have so you can imagine you're

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feeling sick you come into the doctor's

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office right it's a doctor i'm not

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feeling great and so they run tests

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maybe look at your blood cholesterol i'm

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not a doctor i don't know what else

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there is but i know there's stuff

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so

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they look at this stuff and they're able

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to say oh this is the issue or let me

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prescribe you medicine for me i'm

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looking at screens like this that have

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plots that have values currents and

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voltages instead of blood and

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cholesterol and it tells me if our

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instrument is operating healthily and

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safely

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we kind of describe our robots like

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humans at gpl which i love

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and so to me things get a little more

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interesting

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when

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you know nothing seems wrong i didn't

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get an alert and i didn't get called at

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12 in the morning

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but i'm looking at the charts and after

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doing this for a while months years i

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could tell something's not right and

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that's when you put your

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mystery hat on and you work with others

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who built the instrument who designed

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the instrument and you come together and

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you problem solve

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it's just a really really interesting

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and cool environment to be in right in

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the now when our missions are in flight

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and if they're not in flight and the

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project is still in development it's my

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job to figure out how are we going to

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operate it when it gets to space

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wonderful um

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i want to take a quick moment i want to

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bring in some audience questions because

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we've covered a lot of ground already in

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the first 10 minutes um jocelyn what

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what's happening out there in the chats

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yeah we have some really great questions

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coming in um the first one is from

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siencia news on youtube who asks what is

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most fascinating about engineering

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oh

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man that's a great question okay

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i have the perfect answer because i

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started jpl as an engineer and was

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wondering you know like what am i

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supposed to do you know i'm here now

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what

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and i ended up getting to work on a

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really really cool project called the

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cassini mission saturn

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and if you show image seven

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this was the result of my work as an

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engineer on that project

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we were able to operate cameras along

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with a whole suite of other instruments

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that let us get you know real images

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this i remember seeing this when i

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started at jpl and thinking oh this is

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this is an artist's rendition right

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and when they said no oh wait wait a

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second are you are you sure i had to

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send it to my friends my family like

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we're doing this like we're doing this

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right now this is happening today we

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have something at saturn

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it's just like absolutely incredible

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what we're able to do when you put your

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minds together being an engineer is not

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a solo job it's a team job that allows

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us to do incredible things like capture

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wow that's so amazing and i love hearing

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about your origin story and how you got

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to jbl and get to experience this and a

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follow-up to that is mary on twitter

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wants to know what inspired you to go

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into stem and science in the first place

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so

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my mom says that as a kid i always liked

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math she's probably right i did say that

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i was gonna grow up to be a theoretical

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mathematician so i guess that is saying

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something

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i think i've always just been curious

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about how the world works i remember

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when my parents uh bought me my first

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video game console

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and you know they turned around to go do

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something and when they turned back i

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had already plugged it in had the game

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running and i was just fascinated what

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kind of technology allows you to take a

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disc put it in this machine this black

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box and you get an image on the tv and

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you can move a character around i mean

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to me that was

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so cool and i just wanted to know how

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does it work

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what what is the cd doing what is what

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is the console doing i just it sparked

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this curiosity in me to figure out how

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things work and i think that really

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was the groundwork for me

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loving stem and continuing with stem

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even though i loved other things too

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like we all do we're multifaceted people

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but i don't think i would have ever let

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that part of my life go regardless of

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what career i ended up in

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i'm glad you were getting your your

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console to work right away um let's talk

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about what's coming up let's talk about

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what you're working on right now and

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what's let's

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you are a systems engineer for maya so

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what specifically is maya and what are

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you going to do with what what's your

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job with that mission

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yeah so maya stands for the multi-angle

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imager for aerosols

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there goes those acronyms again

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and i know it could be a lot

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but you know all the words in that

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acronym they mean something about this

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instrument about this mission

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so multi-angle is referring to the fact

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that this instrument is able to point at

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targets on the ground at multiple

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different angles

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and it's an imager because we're able to

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actually capture digital images of those

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targets at those different angles

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and then lastly the four aerosols

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describes the fact that these digital

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images are going to aid us and helping

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to characterize these very microscopic

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particles i'm talking

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150th or smaller the width of a human

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hair very very small

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that in our day-to-day life we actually

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can breathe in and these particles are

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so small that they can get deep within

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our lungs and spread to our other organs

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and the reason why that's not such a

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great thing is because

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they come from a variety of sources

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wildfires

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factories

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vehicle emissions

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and

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you know it doesn't really take a rocket

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scientist to know that pollution is not

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that great for you

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in fact it's so not great for you that

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it's actually something that can lead to

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us having and experiencing health issues

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such as

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heart problems

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respiratory illness

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and you know

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death even which i know is a scary thing

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to think about but it just shows why

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it's so important for us to know what's

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going on to gather the information

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so

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you know maya

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uh

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once we capture those images so once

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we're out in space we're in orbit and

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we're looking at these targets at

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different angles and we're taking those

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images that comes back here to the

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ground

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and with some further processing as well

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as with the help of surface monitors

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that are here on earth that measure air

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pollution in different locations all

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around the world

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along with atmospheric composition

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models

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we are able to at the end of that

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draw some pretty nice conclusions about

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the aerosols or the particulate matter

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that we have observed

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and this information allows us to learn

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about how much is there

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you know how big it is what's the size

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what is the chemical composition because

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it's not just one particle type it's

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often many different types and when we

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can you know get that data and come to

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those conclusions we have scientists who

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are able to use that along with health

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records that we are getting from these

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different locations those targets same

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targets i was talking about before

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with the health records

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epidemiologists which maybe was a term

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that people didn't know so much before

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but maybe know pretty well now

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are able to

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uh

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figure out the relationship between

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these aerosols and health issues

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experienced by the people who live here

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and this is what makes maya really a

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one-of-a-kind mission it's why i'm so

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incredibly proud to be on it because

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with this data and with this information

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and with these studies put out into the

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world

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people are able to make better choices

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about our smarter choices about how we

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regulate pollution and things of that

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nature

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and i know that oftentimes when people

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think of nasa jpl they think of things

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like mars and jupiter and sending stuff

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out the solar system which is like that

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is the thing it is cool i got to work on

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stuff like that

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but we also do so much for our own

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planet earth and it's so important for

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us humans to know

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the state of our home because it's the

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only one we have

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and so i'm very much looking forward to

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this mission for all of those reasons

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i always think it's wonderful when we

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yes we get to go you show these

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beautiful pictures of saturn but

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reminding folks that when we say this is

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your space program it also means

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our home we get to take a good look at

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our home and if you want more

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information about maya there's actually

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they're going to put a link in the chat

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we'll also throw a little link across

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the screen right now that you can go and

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visit that um after after our talk today

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but i want to focus stick with kind of

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our common theme tonight and talk about

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what are you as the opera instrument

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operations engineer going to be doing

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with this mission in particular

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yeah absolutely maybe we can go to image

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11 get some nice background for the

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topic

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you know on this mission as an

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instrument operations engineer

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it is going to be my job to figure out

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how we're going to actually operate this

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to make it mission success in the future

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and you may be thinking you're like how

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where do you start and i was thinking

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the same thing where do you start and

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you start by defining what you need in

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order to get what you want so after

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spending some time making requirements

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coming up with the design of what we

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think is going to work i'm now in this

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phase that's very exciting where we're

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building the things we are actually

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testing this stuff we get to see it for

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the first time

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and so in this mission in particular i

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am heavily focusing on the tools that me

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and a future instrument operator is

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going to be using once maya gets into

560
00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:52,159
space and these tools are going to do

561
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:54,240
everything from planning out our

562
00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:56,559
observations because mumbai is going to

563
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,120
be orbiting earth about 15 times a day

564
00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:01,440
100 times a week that's a lot of

565
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:03,360
opportunities to look at our different

566
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,240
targets you know los angeles rome tel

567
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,960
aviv seoul we have so many

568
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:10,559
you can get the full list at our website

569
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:11,679
as well

570
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:13,919
and in order to figure out when we can

571
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:16,080
see things and what we need to do in

572
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,600
order to see them what kind of pointing

573
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:19,760
we need we need a tool to do that and

574
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:22,159
once that tool gives me that information

575
00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:24,880
we can then process that into commands

576
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:27,200
and these commands are instructions for

577
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:28,720
the camera and they're not human

578
00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:31,120
commands they are machine commands so

579
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:33,520
they're working ones and zeros something

580
00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:35,280
you and i it would probably take us a

581
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:37,360
long time to decode them ourselves which

582
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:39,919
is why these tools are so useful

583
00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:42,000
and so i get these commands we send them

584
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:42,799
up

585
00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,559
and then we do that second half of the

586
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,320
job making sure things are going

587
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,559
smoothly and on maya there's quite a few

588
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,559
ways to ensure that the mission is doing

589
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,400
what it should be and one of them will

590
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:54,480
be actually taking a look at those

591
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:57,360
digital images we said we wanted to be

592
00:22:01,350 --> 00:22:00,000
observing boston did we observe boston

593
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:01,360
or are we looking at the ocean you know

594
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:08,470
and so uh all of that you know including

595
00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:10,720
the training the people is what's going

596
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:12,720
on and if you show image

597
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:15,280
uh eight right now

598
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:16,559
we're actually in this phase where we're

599
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:18,480
in integration and testing so what i'm

600
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,559
doing at the moment is i'm working on

601
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:22,640
procedures which you could kind of think

602
00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:25,520
as your step-by-step guide you know if

603
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:28,080
we wanted to for example power the

604
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,679
instrument on they're not going to say

605
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:31,200
you know go power on the instrument and

606
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:33,840
i get on my computer like

607
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:36,159
i think this is good send

608
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:39,360
instead we have these guides that i'm

609
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,679
able to make by talking to other

610
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:43,440
engineers who are on the team as well as

611
00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:44,960
the scientists

612
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:48,080
and so i know before i do anything i

613
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:49,840
need to check to make sure the currents

614
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,039
are looking good the voltages are

615
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:53,120
looking good then i can send the first

616
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:56,080
command and then stop again let's check

617
00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:57,919
is this looking good is this looking

618
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,159
good so these procedures are great but

619
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:02,400
before we just you know use them for the

620
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:05,120
first time in space we use them here in

621
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:06,880
the lab while the instrument is still

622
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:08,960
with us so that we can ensure that we

623
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:12,480
are as prepared as we can be once we get

624
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:16,470
so

625
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:19,679
as an engineer you are the

626
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:21,120
problem solver

627
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:23,120
you create the list of what to do and

628
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,559
you are the dreamers of dreams you're

629
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:26,320
the ones that create and make sure that

630
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,320
this is

631
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,480
possible that it's one thing to send a

632
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:32,080
mission up there

633
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:35,120
but without the information and the data

634
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:37,120
there's nothing to do with it

635
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:39,039
right

636
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:44,960
i'm here today representing the team

637
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,440
because i'm just one part of it i'm

638
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,039
focusing on the instrument operations

639
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,559
but i couldn't have done it without

640
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:52,400
working with people on the flight

641
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:54,559
software side of things people working

642
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,120
on the instrumentation building my

643
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:59,279
people working with all of our partners

644
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:00,960
to make it all come together at the end

645
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:03,200
of the day and so i'm just happy to be

646
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,960
able to share the message of what good

647
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:07,360
is to come for us

648
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:10,240
it's a wonderful mission and and you've

649
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:11,679
you've enlightened us with a lot of

650
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,039
what's going on with it but i know there

651
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:15,120
are a lot of questions so let's send it

652
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:16,480
back over to jocelyn and see what

653
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,440
they're thinking out there in the world

654
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:22,000
hey yeah so priya on linkedin wants to

655
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:25,279
know is maya targeting specific regions

656
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:28,720
or just taking random pictures

657
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:30,559
that's a great question

658
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:33,919
maya is targeting specific regions uh

659
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:36,000
the names i threw out earlier like los

660
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:37,120
angeles

661
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:38,559
boston

662
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:40,480
uh rome

663
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,520
soul

664
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,200
those are actual targets that the

665
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:45,520
scientists chose for a variety of

666
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:46,400
reasons

667
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:48,240
you know perhaps it's because their

668
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,240
population is dense enough because we're

669
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,320
trying to do statistics on this data so

670
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,559
we can come back with very confident

671
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,480
conclusions about what we are able to

672
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:58,480
observe in those regions

673
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:00,320
uh you also can choose them because

674
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,000
they're interesting maybe they

675
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:04,320
experience a lot of bad pollution in

676
00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:07,279
that area also you know this is a study

677
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:10,320
about human health so can we get the

678
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,320
health records from that area

679
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,400
so the scientists spent a lot of time

680
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,559
actually paring down a list and i i love

681
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:18,880
going to science meetings or like my

682
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:21,360
target is important because you know

683
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:23,919
it's super interesting and if you'd like

684
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:25,840
to see more about the process that went

685
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,760
into that and what the full list of

686
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:29,760
current targets that we have right now

687
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:31,440
you can find that information on our

688
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:37,430
awesome so you've talked a little bit

689
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:39,440
about like the complexity of the mission

690
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:41,200
and how many people are involved and

691
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:44,240
musical wolves on youtube asks how long

692
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:47,520
does it usually take to go from idea on

693
00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:49,919
the paper to actually making a

694
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:55,590
that's a great question idea on the

695
00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:57,919
paper to scientific instrument you know

696
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:01,120
i uh maya is the first project that i've

697
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,760
ever worked on that wasn't in space

698
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:06,080
before i joined the team so i'm kind of

699
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,480
seeing everything for the first time and

700
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:10,159
it's really my litmus test for

701
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:11,360
everything else

702
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:13,200
but i asked this question i'm answering

703
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,600
based off of what i've seen and i've

704
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:17,520
been on this project for about three

705
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:20,240
years and when i first joined

706
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,400
maya was basically at the phase where

707
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:24,480
all those initial requirements of what

708
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,120
we needed to make this a reality have

709
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:29,360
been done and now we're going to move

710
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:32,480
into design so three years has passed

711
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,720
we're in integration and test right now

712
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,159
and we'll be launching in a couple of

713
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:39,360
years and so to me it's

714
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,360
it's like a whirlwind because i think

715
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:43,520
last year and the year before that and i

716
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,840
can remember when these things were just

717
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,039
ideas

718
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:49,520
and when i went into the lab for the

719
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:52,720
first time and i actually got to see

720
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:55,919
part of maya in the vacuum chamber for a

721
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,960
test i got to see it move i got to see

722
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:00,640
us command it

723
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,600
it was such a magical

724
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:05,679
moment to see it come together something

725
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,200
that i had just been imagining in my

726
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:09,520
head conceptually was now physically

727
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:10,960
materializing

728
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:13,360
material did i say that right you know

729
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,770
what i meant

730
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:15,679
[Laughter]

731
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:18,240
and so you know it it's it's a whirlwind

732
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:19,520
and it depends on the mission that

733
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:22,080
you're doing maya is simply just the

734
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,679
instrument itself but uh

735
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,760
yeah i'm sure that there are others out

736
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,760
there who can give their thoughts on

737
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:31,919
that too since we do such a wide variety

738
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,310
awesome and going back to a little bit

739
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:40,799
more on the specifics of maya deborah on

740
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:43,840
facebook asks will the imager provide

741
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:46,480
close to real-time data on particulates

742
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,520
in our atmosphere is it pure data and

743
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:51,919
will it be tied to every country's

744
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,870
ah i'm not sure if i understand the full

745
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,480
question but i'm going to try and answer

746
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,000
as best as i can

747
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,320
so when you say real-time data i'm like

748
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:04,720
kind of glad you said that because i

749
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,240
this is like my area so because this is

750
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:10,320
a mission that is orbiting our own

751
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:13,679
planet it's very close compared to you

752
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:15,760
know the mission cassini at saturn i

753
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:18,000
mentioned earlier when we set commands

754
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,320
there it could take an hour and a half

755
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,559
for the commands just to reach the

756
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,640
instrument then another hour and a half

757
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:27,279
for us to know that it got there very

758
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:28,240
different

759
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:30,720
with maya we actually do have the

760
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:34,000
capability to command it in near real

761
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,960
time

762
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:36,000
uh

763
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:37,919
when it comes to like

764
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,440
i'm not exactly sure what you're

765
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,679
imagining but if you are meaning you

766
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,520
know do we send the command and on the

767
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:45,840
ground we see the images right away

768
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:48,320
it's not that fast it's not quite that

769
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:51,039
fast we plan our activities for about a

770
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:54,000
week long and then throughout that week

771
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,480
we gradually get data every time we have

772
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,320
the opportunity to send it back to an

773
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,960
antenna that's here on earth and then

774
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:03,039
after some processing because what we

775
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:05,919
get back is raw data in those images

776
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:07,919
after some processing then we can get to

777
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,159
the point where we've got something to

778
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:12,159
to look at as well as other kinds of

779
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:14,000
data that the scientists will be using

780
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:15,200
as well

781
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:16,720
and so i hope that answered your

782
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:19,520
question or at least part of it

783
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:21,279
yeah definitely i think that provides a

784
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:24,080
lot of insight and as you've mentioned

785
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,279
there's a big team behind this mission

786
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,520
and james williams on youtube wants to

787
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,440
know what's your opinion about the

788
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:33,679
importance of working on a team when

789
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:36,480
you're an engineer

790
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:39,200
it there's nothing that compares to it i

791
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:40,480
love to show

792
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:46,470
uh this is an image of one of the teams

793
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:48,880
that i worked on uh the cassini mission

794
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,799
in the top left you've got the people

795
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:52,559
who basically trained me to be an

796
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,760
instrument ops engineer and i never

797
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:58,080
would have been able to bring that skill

798
00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:00,159
and knowledge to maya

799
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:02,720
without them being there

800
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,679
and

801
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:05,440
think about it now oh actually let's

802
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,159
show image 14 as well talking about

803
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:10,159
teams i mean teams are not just the

804
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:12,080
people who work with you immediately on

805
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:13,440
your projects

806
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,080
teams are about everyone around you jpl

807
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:18,799
is a place that's full with people who

808
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,240
have amazing ideas and even though your

809
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,799
work may never having you crossing paths

810
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:26,399
it doesn't mean that you don't get to

811
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:29,440
meet each other and this is my mit team

812
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:32,000
at jpl first arriving and wondering wow

813
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:33,760
what's going on here

814
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:37,039
and this is all very new i had a team

815
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:39,279
supporters people i could reach out to

816
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:40,880
you know i've never written this kind of

817
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:43,919
document before have any of you and same

818
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:46,159
thing with an employee resource group

819
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:48,640
that i helped to revitalize at jpl

820
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,200
called the black employee resource group

821
00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:53,679
sorry black excellent strategic team

822
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,559
how can i mess that up i'm the president

823
00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:58,480
and so you know that's a photo of us

824
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,399
coming together to build this

825
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:02,559
inclusiveness that shows that it's the

826
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,720
people that make the missions great we

827
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:06,799
are the ones the force behind these

828
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:09,039
incredible ideas and daring mighty

829
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:20,710
so we've got time for one last question

830
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:25,990
great i i think we have a great question

831
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:28,559
looking to the future and future teams

832
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,399
that will build other instruments amy

833
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:32,480
zwolle on youtube wants to know i'm a

834
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:34,240
high school student who's passionate

835
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about aerospace engineering what advice

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do you have on next steps for someone

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you are already ahead of the game kudos

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to you i didn't even know what aerospace

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engineering was when i was in your shoes

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now that you've got that goal in mind to

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me the most important thing for you to

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do at this point

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is don't be your worst enemy

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it is so easy for us to be the downers

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you know we go into this application

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thinking well i know they're not going

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to choose me like

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it's i'm not getting in or i might as

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well not even try it's so easy to feel

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that way about yourself i mean i would

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know i i kind of went through that

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before this talk right here i'm an

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engineer but i don't think of myself as

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an expert i think of myself as a person

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who still has lots and lots to learn

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and so as long as you never stop being

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your best advocate in other words you

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have to be confident enough to make it

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reality

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i can't go around telling people that

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they can do it if i don't believe it

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myself

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so as long as you have that mentality

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it's more important than you'd ever

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imagine a lot of people think the grades

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and the numbers are what's most

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important but at the end of the day is

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what kind of person you are

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be

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yourself having that confidence never

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letting go of your dreams that is

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absolutely key if you want to get into a

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every time i talk to you janelle i feel

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more inspired to go out there and and

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and

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do the thing

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um that's all the time that we have for

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questions but before we go i just want

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to check in and and see if there's any

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last asked words that you that was

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pretty good right there but any last

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words that you want the audience

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everybody watching at home to to walk

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you know i guess if there were any last

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thoughts especially on a talk right here

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that's all about maya multi-angle imager

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for aerosols

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it just goes to show that you know we as

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people we have to come together in order

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to bring about good change and this

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mission is the example of that i

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absolutely can't wait to be able to say

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look at what we've done and look at what

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good we can do for the world when maya's

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out there orbiting making these

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observations these papers start coming

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out i mean

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it really doesn't get better than that

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doing something that benefits humanity

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and

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even though we all may not have the

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opportunity to work on maya right now i

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do strongly believe that we all have the

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capability to do good and so if you

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leave anything it's that

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that is all the time that we have for

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tonight but please join us next month

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for our talk the warm glow of the cool

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universe with dita markovic and phil

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corngut remember folks that all of our

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past von carmen talks are available

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online and i would like to thank our

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terrific speaker janelle wellins for

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taking the time to join us tonight i

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also want to thank our co-host jocelyn

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argeta and everyone behind the scenes

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that make these talks possible and the

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last thank you always goes out to all of

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you

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watching at home

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this is your space program and we're so

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happy that you join us every single

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month so please join us in october stay

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safe

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stay kind and stay curious